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As a Midwesterner, it is absolutely bonkers to me how common it appears to be for HVAC systems to get installed in attics.

Don't do that. Stop doing that! WTF?

That's bad enough, but then you go and run the ducts up there, too?

Y'all.

If you keep the system and the ducts within the space you're trying to heat and cool, you don't have to account for any losses, now, do ya?

Put the air handler in a utility closet. Run ducts /below/ the ceiling. Enclose with soffiting if you must.

The end.

@TechConnectify
Hi. California, our house is concrete slab.

AC condenser is out back but the HVAC blower and furnace are in the attic.

It allows nice fat tubes carry the air back to the blower and then out to the rooms, I don't think it would be possible to have the airflow capacity we have without the unit in the attic.

When A/C kicks on, first blast is cool.

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@SocialJusticeHeals Oh it's totally possible for it to not be in the attic yet still have stellar airflow.

You can run a 8X24 rectangular trunk along the perimeter of the home in a soffit. Might even be simpler than the octopus of ducting I've seen in some attics.

That seems to be the key aversion - many would rather have a clean ceiling than put efficiency first.

@SocialJusticeHeals What I think is key is that when you don't go into the attic, all those little losses that you have to watch out for just evaporator.

Ducts leak a little bit? Not a problem.

Insulated ductwork? We hardly even know what that is here. You don't need it when the system is entirely within the conditioned space.

I think California just has an aversion to what we call a "utility room"

Over here, furnace and water heater are almost always together. Seems the opposite in CA.

@SocialJusticeHeals The number of water heaters and washer/dryers I see in CA garages somewhat confirms that.

Up here in the Great Cold North, you generally can't put water pipes in the garage. So that's out of the question.

Then we'd usually share the same exhaust for the water heater and furnace. So they go together quite often.

And since that's gotta go inside, might as well make a room out of it and stick the washer/dryer in there, too

Of course, if you have a basement, it all goes there

@TechConnectify
We have a tiny tiny tiny laundry room that is too tiny to be a laundry room, we would knock out the wall to give actual access to the washer/dryer but they put the circuit breaker on that wall. Dumbass design.

Our water heater is in fact in the garage. It has a recirculation pump because otherwise the other side of the house would take too long to get hot water.

My old place, the water heater was in a closet on the outside of the house! That was a real waste of energy in winter

@TechConnectify
Our tiny laundry room, with the wall we wish we could just knock out.

It's weird, they put a 20A circuit in but there's no room for an ironing board... (Washer/dryer use a different 240V circuit)

@TechConnectify@mas.to
i clicked cuz i saw my name in this post
my steam name has been water heater for a while thanks to you mr connections

@TechConnectify @SocialJusticeHeals It would have made more sense for them to be located together here since both of them do the same job, using natural gas to boil water, but they're in two different areas of the house for me. No idea why.