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As a Midwesterner, it is absolutely bonkers to me how common it appears to be for HVAC systems to get installed in attics.

Don't do that. Stop doing that! WTF?

That's bad enough, but then you go and run the ducts up there, too?

Y'all.

If you keep the system and the ducts within the space you're trying to heat and cool, you don't have to account for any losses, now, do ya?

Put the air handler in a utility closet. Run ducts /below/ the ceiling. Enclose with soffiting if you must.

The end.

@TechConnectify Can't speak for the general case, but in ours (heat pump, Nova Scotia, ftr):

  • We have two closet upstairs, they're in use: one laundry, one storage
  • We got an attic unit specifically to run vents to each room upstairs
  • The attic unit needs an intake, 20"x20", because it moves a lot of volume; infeasible for a closet
  • It also needs to run refrigerant and drainage to the exterior (and then down to the ground); also not closet-compatible
  • That's the unit for just the top floor

@delta_vee An important consideration here is that I'm mainly talking about home design. If you're retrofitting stuff, convention flies out the norm.

We would /never/ design a home from scratch where any of the HVAC stuff is in an unconditioned space like an attic. They may go in basements, but those need some heat, too, so it all works out. And we design return ducting in, too.

But, circling back to retrofits, this is a key reason I expect mini-splits to become a lot more common soon

@TechConnectify @delta_vee Most of the actual AC units have been outside in the back yard, or on the roof. I've never seen one inside the house that wasn't a portable.

@kazriko @TechConnectify Well mine are heat pumps, so they have indoor and outdoor portions, connected by refrigerant and power lines - it's the placement of the indoor part we're talking about

@delta_vee @TechConnectify The only split units like that I've seen, the indoor unit is flat against the wall and doesn't use ducting...

@kazriko @delta_vee I just saw you post elsewhere you have a gas-fired furnace.

So, around here, that doubles as the air handler. You stick an evaporator coil above it and hook it up to an outdoor condensing unit, and that's how we do central air conditioning.

@TechConnectify @delta_vee It's a gas fired, water boiling furnace. I'm not sure how I'd fit cold air through the hot water line.
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@kazriko @delta_vee Ah. I wouldn't call that a furnace - I'd call that a boiler.