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@dysfun @TechConnectify @JustinH if I understand the problem, imagine every time you made a post you got thousands of replies, some of which you'd like to interact with, but a significant number of them are from accounts you've never interacted with on random other servers that are borderline abuse.
No amount of moderation on your server instance can address this problem, because your server is doing nothing wrong.
@dysfun @TechConnectify @JustinH what is being asked for (I think) is to first recognise the problem. This thread shows that this is far from happening.
Second you need some tools and policies to filter the poor behaviour. Less than a ban, but more than "don't look at messages that are addressed to you, that might upset you"
At least I think that's what is being asked for.
@cbehopkins @dysfun @JustinH exactly. One thing that I've just realized is that, when we compare this platform to email, subject lines are effectively content warnings. I don't go to my inbox and see every email that's been sent to me, I see a list of content warnings.
Here, though, it's as if I open my inbox and am reading every single email.
Social media is a different beast from email. A feed full of content warnings is tedious and boring. But there has to be filtering.
@TechConnectify @cbehopkins @dysfun @JustinH This is a great analogy. And likely a hard problem to solve in federation. I can imagine on Twitter that the server could keep some kind of reputation score and bump up the signal / reduce the noise based on that. It seems like that’s a lot of what the nutjobs were complaining about over there before the takeover (“deplatforming”).
I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with this.
@gogobonobo @cbehopkins @dysfun @JustinH Thanks. And it is a tricky problem - the "deplatforming" folks may have been right depending on if the signals they gave the algorithms were unintentional, but many times they should absolutely have been sent to the basement of the comments because they couldn't help but be terrible all the time.
Broadly, I don't feel as if anyone has a right to put their thoughts in front of somebody else. A signal to noise filter just has to be there.
@TechConnectify @cbehopkins @dysfun @JustinH I’ve heard that “restrict replies” might be coming. That might help a little but it would also completely squash the conversation.
“Broadly, I don't feel as if anyone has a right to put their thoughts in front of somebody else. A signal to noise filter just has to be there.”
Yes! And it’s one of the reasons people were leaving Twitter in 2023. Would be a shame not to learn that lesson.
@TechConnectify @gogobonobo @cbehopkins @dysfun @JustinH it is really unfortunate how Twitter ruined this mechanism when they started boosting replies of paid subscribers. Now go to the replies of any somewhat popular post, and most of the top replies are extremely bad takes from people who paid for a blue check to make sure they were seen.
@kepstin @TechConnectify @gogobonobo @cbehopkins @dysfun @JustinH I'm pretty sure that boost bypasses whatever is left of the original "jerk filter.". :/
Not sure how to do individual reputation filtering in a federated system, though - the closest does seem to be something like email spamlists, but you have to TRUST the ones you use to make it work. There's been enough concerning shenanigans with fediblocks to be a bit wary - and you don't want to hammer an entire instance over a few people.