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Oh my gosh I just figured it out.
Okay, all you open source evangelist people: your knee-jerk reaction to come at people who are talking about a problem with whatever commercial software they use and suggest Your Favorite Alternatives™ is exactly like saying "why don't you just buy a house?" to someone complaining about their landlord.
EDIT: There's more than one post here. Pick apart the analogy if you will but... beware you'll be proving the point.
Actually, to borrow from @DoubleA, it's worse than that.
It's like talking to someone who is in a crappy apartment as though they have the agency and skills to stake out a plot of land and build their own home.
You have to be at peace with the fact that some people just want to exist and not worry about so many things. And they still have a right to complain about their situation.
@TechConnectify @DoubleA Shout out to the home assistant project for actively trying to acknowledge and address these kinds of issues! It makes them a shining star in my opinion, not that they get everything perfect, but they see and acknowledge this problem in a way other projects refuse to
@blooper98 @DoubleA that's good to know. I may in fact begin dabbling in it as Smartthings continues to degrade.
Hot take though: I would happily pay $5 a month for Smartthings. I would actually like them to create an infrastructure that pays smart people to work through problems, and would happily pay a subscription fee to improve the product to that end.
Alas, they (probably rightfully) view that as a bridge too far and the situation now is very precarious.
@TechConnectify @DoubleA that is precisely home assistants model with Nabu Casa
@blooper98 I could probably look this up so excuse me for just asking, but am I right in presuming that this is something like a voluntary patreon for the project?
Because that's really cool. That's literally how I fund my work, and I think more places should experiment with no paywalls but voluntary contributions.
@TechConnectify Not exactly, they provide some cloud services for your money like easy remote access and voice assistant bridging. That said I wouldn’t be shocked if many of their tech savvy customers treat it like a patreon. #homeassistant #NabuCasa
— And, I'll note that folk like @TechConnectify are kind of the target audience for things like @homeassistant You're technical enough to want to do a few things, but have hard limits about doing super fiddly things. You have opinions about making things easier and more straight forward that they want to hear.
Heck, you're probably perfect for their little plug in doo-hickey https://www.home-assistant.io/green
@jrconlin @blooper98 @TechConnectify @homeassistant I was thinking of getting one of those...or HA Yellow. Because yellow has Zigbee built in. Though I also need zwave and thread support....
@blooper98 @TechConnectify That’s what I use their services for. It’s just to keep the project going.
@blooper98 @TechConnectify This is exactly how I view it. I don't use any of the voice assistant bridges, and use wireshark for remote connections.
For a tech savvy person, HA is about as "works out of the box" as it gets. Unfortunately that box requires a few other boxes, but Nabu had made it fairly easy to get them going.
Still wouldn't recommend it for anyone who wants something that "just works" though. (I almost brought up zwave thermostats in the other thread, but... Nah.)
@TechConnectify @blooper98 the patreon like you're describing would be @opencollective
@TechConnectify HomeAssistant is one of the well organized open source projects in that they have a revenue model that funds their open source efforts.
I'm actually volunteering my time to help their UX. My current fledgling project with them is to help their out of box experience (which is 50% awesome and 50% 'so.... what do I do now?') If you chose to try it at some point, I'm happy to hear your thoughts/complaints/suggestions.