I'm really reacting badly to everything being in the cloud.

I want a thing that works on my computer. I don't want to be internetted all. the. time.

Now the new NVIDIA RTX graphics cards [1] seem to have a cloud variant.

Please stop. Having part of your computer live on somebody else's computer does not support resilience if it could go down, get taken away, become out dated and closed.


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All the computer things I'm playing with will be local first.

Because I want them to last a long time. And be safe. And not break. And make people feel secure.

And it's not stupid.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

@sprkwd Ultimately, free software and other communities who value autonomy will need to be able to make their own hardware, or have suppliers serving this niche.

From the capitalism point of view, they will try to put as much into the cloud as possible. That makes them critical gatekeepers where they can set up toll roads on the information superhighway and have total control over the user experience. The direction of travel of the tech industry is to expand the number/size of data centers and to reduce phones and laptops to inexpensive thin clients entirely dependent on the cloud.

@bob I can certainly see it in the near future being a dumb handheld console / desktop that boots into CORPORATE CLOUD™️ like the dream of the 50s and 60s.

And I think you're right. Framework et al, will be the future for free / open folk.

@sprkwd funny thing is that the average smartphone is a far more competent computing device than even a "fat" workstation was back then.

Technically, even a phone can be its own computing device with minimal dependencies other than a transport network. We just chose to not make it so by relying on "cloud" services, i.e. somebody else's servers.

@fedops @bob

Right? The Ubuntu idea of desktop / phone convergence was a great idea. IF it was local only. But that's not the way things work these days. Just seems to be squeezing data, information, money out of literally everything.

Capitalism is not the final form.

@sprkwd @bob I think what you're describing as a dumb handheld that boots into a corporate cloud already exists... it's called a Chromebook 😆
Joking aside, you're right, but fundamentally it's a backwards step in technology - we used to have dumb workstations that offloaded all their work to a room-sized mainframe to crunch - now we can have super dumb workstations that offload their work to [somebody else's] worldwide server farms to crunch

@paul @bob

HA! Chromebooks, you're absolutely right. And probably many phones. "Hey Siri, set a timer for 20 minutes doesn't work on airport mode".

@paul the Chromebooks are fulfilling what Sun back then tried with the portable version of the Sun Rays.

I still think it's a great idea - as long as *you* own the backend and not GAFAM.
@bob @sprkwd

@fedops @paul @bob @sprkwd Yes that's also a possibility. If you have a home server or some shared server that you really trust then thin clients would be ok. There could be municipal computing where you have autonomy at the town level, or club computing where a club runs a server for members.

@sprkwd I've been saying that for years about what happens when the stuff on "someone else's computer"/cloud goes down, gets taken away (often on a whim), and/or closed down.

But as I often say, I am not a pundit nor do I play one on TV.

@bloodravenlib as I often say... "There will be a reckoning."

But by then, it'll probably be too late.

@sprkwd To use another film quote, "Oh yes, there will be blood."

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