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The next instalment of Linus vs. Kent – and Linus seems to be on the edge:
"[…] I'm contemplating just removing #bcachefs entirely from the [#Linux #kernel] mainline tree. Because you show again and again that you have no interest in trying to make mainline work. […]"
For the full discussion, start here: https://lore.kernel.org/all/cphtxla2se4gavql3re5xju7mqxld4rp6q4wbqephb6by5ibfa@5myddcaxerpb/t/#m631c24cd07f5820a4cbff8f25dff1d1a0c3cf2e7 (the quote is from one of the later mails from Linus). #LinuxKernel
@kernellogger I really hope that Linus drops bcachefs. The FS and its concept are interesting but not worth dealing with the negativity of Kent.
When rightfully criticizing his behaviour, the first thing he does is shitting on btrfs (and its devs), even if the discussion is not technical.
@brot
Honestly from what I'd seen I was on Kent's side until fairly recently - there were certain people on lkml who would just automatically NAK any suggestion of his without engaging constructively and I'm not surprised that tipped him over the edge occasionally.
Now bcachefs has been merged though his attitude seems to have changed to "I can do what I want because my process is better" and that's... really not going to work :(
@kernellogger
Dealing with Kent afaics for a long time already was, ehh, was not easy for many people -- and the reason why some actors were not that much willing to engage constructively.
Which is…
> automatically NAK any suggestion of his without engaging constructively
…why it's so dangerous to take sides in complicated topics/discussions, as you never known if there is a non-obvious backstory that explains some behaviours.
@vbabka @kernellogger @brot ah, I don't do detail these days, so my impressions could very much be wrong. I was almost certainly thinking back well over a year ago anyway - so I likely don't mean any recent proposals.
I dip in and out of lkml periodically but have been doing so for years, and I've been trying to keep tabs on the bcachefs stuff because I have personal reasons for wanting a 'better btrfs' (mainly for container pools etc.)