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I've expressed few strong opinions about the issue, specifically, or the defederation issue more broadly, but I think the fact that there are very good arguments for either action is indicative of a systemic problem.

The two positions (simplified):

Anti-defed: "I want to see my friends posts, and I want them to see mine." I want that, too.

Pro-defed: "I never want to see Nazi shit on my feed, and I don't want my followers to see Nazi shit on my threads." Yep, me too.

Joe Cooper 🇺🇦

Problem is, these two positions are currently incompatible. If you don't defed instances that are lax about moderation, you inevitably get Nazis in your feed and in your threads, and you can't control that! You can block them, but if they've responded to your threads, their posts will remain visible to others. You won't see it, but your friends will unless/until they block that person, too.

Defed is a big hammer that smashes a lot of innocents on big instances. I have friends on Threads, too.

I want to curate what my followers see when they read my threads, which is not how things currently work. I can curate what I see, but I have no say over Nazis leveraging my threads as a platform. And, people with large follower counts are a very attractive target for Nazis on any platform that allows that kind of engagement farming...it's why they hate the platforms built explicitly for them: it doesn't provide a platform to spout their garbage opinions in the mentions of popular people.

The most valid argument for "keep everything the way it is and defed all the loosely moderated instances" is that the fediverse is best when it's lots of small servers, so everyone can choose their own adventure.

But, the argument that trumps that is that it is gatekeeping bullshit. It's saying the fediverse should _only_ be for nerds and should remain small. My friends on Threads don't grok instances and federation. They'll never be "here" if here is only many small focused instances.

And, it's also worth noting that defederating doesn't actually provide the "zero tolerance for Nazis" experience, anyway. Because of the way things propagate, entire conversations can happen around your posts without your instance being involved and without you ever seeing it. That's unintuitive, to put it mildly, and it's kind of an even more hostile implementation of the quote-tweet pile-on tactic used over on Twitter. The classic Polite Nazi infiltration tactic works here.

@swelljoe Your posts won't be visible or commentable by users on domain blocked instances, regardles if the domain is blocked on user or admin level, if your host instance has authorized fetch enabled.

@pieselpriemel but, as I understand it, replies to my posts may be, assuming they are from people on instances that have not defederated the offending instance. My understanding may be wrong, of course. But I believe I have seen conversations happening this way, though maybe I misinterpreted how things work that led to those siloed conversations.

Comparing it to QTs was probably misleading. But, the toxic QTer doesn't really care what the original tweet says, it's the follow-on that matters.