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@markwyner we are in wild times. It's hard to predict much of anything these days.

Cook, as leading a $4T company, deals all the time with dictators. He knows how to handle them; he's also not perfect.

I try to look at history to understand situations like this, and the movie #SchindlersList comes to mind. It is a movie about people under attack and an industrialist who tries to save them, doing what he can in another wild time.

It's hard to know anything right now.

@jdavidnet would you mind elaborating on “he knows how to handle them; he's also not perfect”? I’m not sure I get what you’re suggesting, and I’d like to understand it better.

@markwyner

Everything is a trolly problem now. People need to choose sub-ideal paths to optimal outcomes.

I trust Cook has personal interests that align with my interests.

I trust Cook has dealt with these prideful people before.

I don't trust Cook will always make the perfect choice. Foxconn's labor abuse is, in part, his responsibility, & see it as a failure on his part.

I Trust Cook on privacy rights.

Nothing is binary, but we make binary choices in a nonbinary world.

@jdavidnet thanks for explaining.

I whole heartedly disagree on acceptance of this as part of balance. Or that we can trivialize it to accepting the bad with the good.

Support for a theocratic, fascist dictator isn’t a character flaw. Millions of people are going to suffer and die. Support for that is unforgivable. There’s literally no logical defense for it.

For me, it’s zero tolerance.

Thanks for being civil and kind with your words. I disagree with you, but I respect your point of view.

@markwyner I don't accept it as 'balance' or 'on balance.'

I observe it as a possible unfortunate reality; we exist in a fully corrupted system.

I've had friends travel through corrupt countries, and their stories are eye-opening.

I'm more appalled at Meta's behavior to bend a knee than Cook's "paying to opt-out" in the form of a tribute.

Everything is Trolly-Problem-Game-Theory now.

Historically, a general strike has been helpful; not sure what else is.

I am patiently quantifying.

@jdavidnet @markwyner I do agree to the constant trolley problem that life has become. It's very hard to go through life now without doing or consuming something which (in)directly supports social or physical damage in our world or even to ourselves.

There are some paths which are better than others but they're hard to figure out. I hate it.

@sarajw @markwyner

We depend on complexity now. We depend on extreme efficiency.
We depend on technology.

I think to avoid complexity collapse, we need to advance in ways that create more simplicity.

Solar Punk is one example of this, but I think there are others to find as well.

Tech that lasts much longer, simpler systems that are efficient, and greater tolerance for intermittent inefficiency.

We need to peacefully untangle and unwind.

@jdavidnet @markwyner I agreeeee.

@jaredwhite I respect your decision. But I’d never in a million years use a Windows computer. And I don’t know that Microsoft is any better on the ethical side of things than Apple. Anyway, that’s not an option for me.