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Weird that it's always "how can atheists be moral without God" when they're the only ones who can truly do good for the sake of doing good, without expectation of eternal reward or punishment

@zencoffeebreak wanna push back on this a little bit - it's ultimately a christian view of morality, even if flipped on its head. many non-christian religious communities place emphasis on doing good things not because of reward or punishment but simply because it's the right thing to do. each specific community will have their own interpretations, but as an example many strains of judaism place much more emphasis on correct action (treating those around you with respect and care) than correct belief, and sikh communities are notorious for jumping in and helping out whenever disaster strikes. fear of one specific god and anticipation of reward or punishment is a specifically christian way of looking at ethics and morality, and it does a disservice to religious minorities to apply that lens to our communities.